Collector wrote:My copy of 1.65c does not have the RBT versions, just the AVIs. I would be interested in learning more about your copy.
Well it's a pink CD with a picture of one of the NPC on the left side. It looks like that I don't have the box anymore (years ago I was so stupid to throw away most of my games boxes
). Also possible that I bought it at a local flea market. About 15 years ago... But it looks like that this release isn't that rare. I found an old thread at the adventure gamers forum where someone had the same release with the rbt-movies:
Link
Here are the details about the files (dates & size and if you scroll down MD5 checksums):
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Verzeichnis von H:\
02.03.1995 16:20 143.036 0.CHK
01.03.1995 06:22 130.909 ALTRES.000
01.03.1995 06:22 466 ALTRES.MAP
01.03.1995 06:22 466 ALTRES.MDT
08.03.1995 05:50 <DIR> AVI
14.11.1994 07:55 36.467 BOOTDISK.EXE
22.11.1994 09:07 766 BOOTDISK.ICO
09.08.1994 04:56 44.464 D2HTOOLS.DLL
08.03.1995 05:50 <DIR> ENGLISH
14.11.1994 15:17 9.856 INSTALL.WRI
03.03.1995 05:53 59.392 KQ7GAME.HLP
03.03.1995 04:56 9.984 KQ7READ.WRI
07.10.1992 17:16 3.714 MIDITEST.MID
08.03.1995 05:46 58.896 MKGROUP.EXE
02.03.1995 17:16 204.385.195 RESOURCE.000
22.11.1994 07:48 217.716.879 RESOURCE.AUD
27.01.1995 03:50 448 RESOURCE.LST
02.03.1995 17:16 18.925 RESOURCE.MAP
02.03.1995 17:16 18.925 RESOURCE.MDT
22.11.1994 08:02 50.930.358 RESOURCE.SFX
06.02.1995 03:17 253 RESOURCE.WIN
15.02.1995 11:36 142.998 SCIDLL.DLL
08.12.1994 08:16 25.888 SETUP.EXE
23.02.1995 13:46 270.173 SETUP.SOL
12.08.1994 04:57 8.475 SIERRA.ERR
17.11.1994 06:41 11.061.248 SIERRA.HLP
08.03.1995 05:03 10.064 SIERRA.INF
23.02.1995 02:00 684.036 SIERRAW.EXE
21.06.1994 03:01 766 SIERRAW.ICO
02.03.1995 16:17 11 VERSION
01.11.1994 11:00 1.103.992 VFW.SOL
29 Datei(en), 486.877.050 Bytes
Verzeichnis von H:\AVI
08.03.1995 05:50 <DIR> .
07.01.2015 16:35 <DIR> ..
16.02.1995 11:01 51.169.382 1.RBT
16.02.1995 11:38 18.083.942 11.RBT
16.02.1995 11:57 2.898.022 12.RBT
08.11.1994 08:17 9.559.116 E108X11.AVI
10.11.1994 09:47 2.014.412 E208X11.AVI
08.11.1994 07:45 21.948.444 INT08X11.AVI
6 Datei(en), 105.673.318 Bytes
Verzeichnis von H:\ENGLISH
08.03.1995 05:50 <DIR> .
07.01.2015 16:35 <DIR> ..
14.02.1995 09:12 4.602 LANGUAGE.INF
1 Datei(en), 4.602 Bytes
Anzahl der angezeigten Dateien:
36 Datei(en), 592.554.970 Bytes
6 Verzeichnis(se), 0 Bytes frei
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db6e081a5466b90191cbcef695571230 h:\ALTRES.000
56ebb2960302d207dfbbeae36fd97c15 h:\ALTRES.MAP
b78e6fc096aed67c32dc663bcd25fe32 h:\ALTRES.MDT
c4e8889ae0dd697c2a2aec109bb4c02e h:\AVI\1.RBT
26e96b3fd6a73893821657ef24bdd101 h:\AVI\11.RBT
0a3aa6b07efaea0b92ef47ac973f1555 h:\AVI\12.RBT
025084ab8c0fe647ce7033c169e2f011 h:\AVI\E108X11.AVI
5eacf24ef996cb038eae0efa9b40b01e h:\AVI\E208X11.AVI
f4f25f5a2b0468b98eb9bb2c21723bb3 h:\AVI\INT08X11.AVI
f1af622ec2deb4a5aab7c997714c37ea h:\BOOTDISK.EXE
82ca959297cc1b4c6bc3abdbff84ae2b h:\BOOTDISK.ICO
367065aa3b34b4feffa8be3c83075409 h:\D2HTOOLS.DLL
8976ac375790340e4efeff6e9b58c87f h:\ENGLISH\LANGUAGE.INF
30dc83520b968b307f3fba52e2950cfa h:\INSTALL.WRI
322224b833d5aaeac6fd1d4e165b76c7 h:\KQ7GAME.HLP
c3f7c9386be04dd7f6e6d6a12b388c59 h:\KQ7READ.WRI
e6a098eb926dc37d026926fad4b25462 h:\MIDITEST.MID
58ec2e75f716345affbe88d5d4fa7b0e h:\MKGROUP.EXE
dfcc73bfb8fccba93f2308363fda0eee h:\RESOURCE.000
ee3c2ee1994fe61c70f26bacbd34a7c8 h:\RESOURCE.AUD
fdd9b577077487352c3634e49105456e h:\RESOURCE.LST
7ee7c9c69b647d574b7f2459a2a0c410 h:\RESOURCE.MAP
c60a6d18ead0b7b6e22b18da805a1622 h:\RESOURCE.MDT
f3f26f7b4d4608a668e3507a96ed1387 h:\RESOURCE.SFX
460d2cbdac787b93ec1eab3e0eefa214 h:\RESOURCE.WIN
bf29275b8a80a6af1397192e40833fb7 h:\SCIDLL.DLL
bdd952f90e97edf548d0ef4dd0ec626d h:\SETUP.EXE
15b58e48f139d9e84700a9e17b82a449 h:\SETUP.SOL
4d9122131775e6349c3c8b6574ec612c h:\SIERRA.ERR
4eed013fdce86e53c0adf63428568392 h:\SIERRA.HLP
2447d06c082f0b63c41e4b0edbfd02c3 h:\SIERRA.INF
d6c2dce6b0256304062aa26c27b820fb h:\SIERRAW.EXE
4603232848faded80d274c560e3fd131 h:\SIERRAW.ICO
7de6690eab67d0cd6720f865e0ecd6b3 h:\VERSION
c6936061b0fd7536abe75ced3f55913b h:\VFW.SOL
Collector wrote:
The 10000 cycles was set to work around the fire cracker timer bug. NRS recently did a script patch to address it, but I have not incorporated it into the installer, yet.
I noticed that with a very high cycles setting I get sporadic short scratching noises ingame when a sfx gets played. I haven't tried to play with the sound buffer values in the resource.cfg yet to check if you can get rid of this effect.
Collector wrote:I would be interested in your German hack, too. The installer has support for the Spanish 2.00 and I could easily add support for the French. It would be nice to add German.
It's basically the english v2.00b version installed with the SHP DOSBox installer. I've extracted the font, message, aud-map and graphic files that differ from the german version from the resource.000 & altres.000 and copied it into the the v2.00b installation and Patches folder (depending on the file type). Apart from that I overwrote the english resource.aud file with the german one (it gets accepted because of the german aud-map files), exchanged the english voiceover in the rbt movies with german voiceover (wrote a little C++ tool with info from the scummvm repository) extracted from the german avi movies (sadly very poor quality) and modified two german menu graphics because the click-area of two buttons didn't match.
So I wouldn't call it a hack. My abilities are very limited.
But I don't know if it's ok to create an installer that makes a german v2.00b from the german v1.51 CD since you would have to add huge parts from the english version and I'm not sure about the rights here. Even if you can't make the added english files run as english version because of the now missing english resource.aud...
Tawmis wrote:First - welcome to the forum! Always nice to have new blood around here! And even nicer, when they're doing cool things with Sierra games!
Thanks!
Tawmis wrote:You should capture the different videos and put them on Youtube so it's easy to see the difference.
I could - but I'm on a quite slow internet connetion. I needed 45min to upload the 50MB Zip file with the mentioned alternate rbt-mvies.
And you can easily compare them yourself. All you need is an installed v2.00b version. Edit the dosbox.conf and set the cycles value to 20000 or do this ingame by using 'Ctrl'+'F12'. Then first play the intro, leave the game, go to the AVI subfolder, rename the existing files, copy the extracted rbt files from the Link in my first posting into the folder, start the game again and watch the intro to compare. I think it's noticeable.
Oh - it's not like I want to say we should use these rbt movies from now on. I just thought it's a kind of interesting that these version of the movies exist and that it's funny to speculate why they weren't used for a release. Since they are robot version 4 movies they are older than the robot version 5 movies that gets used in v2.00b.
