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The Witcher - Enhanced Edition Platinum

Post by misslilo » Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:19 pm

Ok, so I finally got this game :)
Surprised to not see it mentioned here. No one played it, or is it just not interesting enough to talk about?

I've only just started it and are on my way to Vizima.... so far it's ok - I like the story.
Not sure I like the way we fight, but I guess I'll learn eventually, lol.
Making potions is not for me either - too much to remember.
I know, I'm a lazy gamer - run around and kill with one click and gather stuff just to sell - that's me in a nutshell, lol :D
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Re: The Witcher - Enhanced Edition Platinum

Post by AndreaDraco » Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:28 pm

I played it, even if I didn't complete it. I didn't like it very much, to be honest, and I wasn't happy about having to play a preset character. That's fine in adventure games, but when I play a RPG I want to be able to personalize my avatar, to shape his looks as much as his personality. Moreover, I found the story pretty uninspired and the sexual undertones distasteful.
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Re: The Witcher - Enhanced Edition Platinum

Post by Tawmis » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:46 pm

Miss - I am the same. I think I burned out from MMO's and doing tradeskills in them. When I played EVERQUEST, I bust my arse off to be an alchemist ... and gather things, make potions, the whole bit... and by the time I achieved the highest rank possible (at that time)... I was done. No more. And it's carried over into every other game I have played since then. Whether normal RPG or MMO. The only exception was Star Wars Galaxies, and I took up... forgot the skill... but for playing music (might be as simple as Musician?)... but that's because it was VERY easy.

I am interested in playing WITCHER, if for no other reason as that they're the same folks who made the Drakensang game (which I - admittedly - wasn't too impressed with, but it's an RPG so I want to play it!) :lol:

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Re: The Witcher - Enhanced Edition Platinum

Post by Tawmis » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:16 am

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The follow up to the critically acclaimed and award-winning 2007 RPG of the Year is back in The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings!
And starting today, pre-order one of the most anticipated RPG’s of 2011 from our retailers. Pre-order bonuses include exclusive costumes, finishing moves, and other magical bonuses.

Game Features:
• Engrossing Mature Storyline defines new standards for realistic, non-linear game narration. The continued adventures of Geralt of Rivia builds on events from The Witcher while proving even more captivating, epic and full of surprises.

• Enhanced and deeper role-playing experience: Extensive non-linearity, quests deeply linked with the core storyline, more expansive character development, advanced crafting mechanics, and many other improvements make The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings go above and beyond other games in the genre.

• Unique, intuitive combat system: blending a wide range of tactical elements with the most spectacular and dynamic combat sequences ever seen in an RPG.

• State-of-the-art technology created by CD Projekt RED: An all new graphical engine built from the ground up features breathtaking scenery and outstanding visual fidelity in this deep, expansive game world.

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Re: The Witcher - Enhanced Edition Platinum

Post by misslilo » Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:41 am

Right, but the best part is the Pre-Order offer GOG.com has! :D

DRM free, lots of extras, a free gog game and for the UK and EU people an additional credit of either $6 or $16 (to be used on GOG.com)
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Post by DeadPoolX » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:22 am

misslilo wrote:Right, but the best part is the Pre-Order offer GOG.com has! :D

DRM free, lots of extras, a free gog game and for the UK and EU people an additional credit of either $6 or $16 (to be used on GOG.com)
Huh. That's odd that GOG would have a new game. After all, GOG stands for "Good Old Games" and considering their catalog of games, I wouldn't expect them to offer anything remotely new.

I still don't believe the whole "DRM free" thing. Any form of copy protection, from the old "find-it-in-the-manual" gimmick to needing an account somewhere to play the game is all a form of DRM. ;)
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Re: The Witcher - Enhanced Edition Platinum

Post by misslilo » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:27 pm

It's probably because the guys behind GOG is also the ones, that made Witcher games :)

Oh, and you don't need an account with GOG to play their games, so I'm guessing it will be the same for the Witcher 2.
That is if we get to download from GOG.com
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Re: The Witcher - Enhanced Edition Platinum

Post by Collector » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:43 pm

GOG has no DRM out side of the occasional manual check that is integrated into the game play. They will crack and or hack games with DRM before they sell them. misslilo is right that you don't need to have an account and be online as you do Steam. The only account that you need is just to buy the games. Perhaps Steam is better than draconian DRMs like StarForce, but I don't like buying games that I won't be able to install/play when the company folds. Think that Valve can't go under? Many would have said the same thing about Sierra at one time.
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Post by MusicallyInspired » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:59 pm

It's not whether or not Valve will go under, but whether Steam will go under (whomever owns it). Steam is the largest booming multi-OS digital distribution gaming platform and it's not going anywhere. It's getting too much business. There would be millions and millions of people losing out of their games if the plug was ever pulled. It's the kind of thing they're not going to just abandon. There was a similar system called Triton or something that the game Prey used to be released on. It went under and everyone who bought the game on Triton was given a free key for their game for Steam as an alternative.

Honestly, I look at it as my games having a lot more support and security than physical copies could provide because you buy it from a store and then that's it. You're on your own. If you break your disc it's gone. If your computer becomes too modern to play it, you either have to figure out an alternative yourself or you're screwed. Steam actually makes things easier and more secure.

Don't get me wrong, I love my physical copies and I buy them whenever possible, but I don't knock Steam either. I really think Steam is a fantastic system that solves a lot of the problems that are inherent to physical mediums and only produces some minor cons on the other hand.
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Re: The Witcher - Enhanced Edition Platinum

Post by Collector » Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:28 pm

Didn't Valve start Steam?
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Post by MusicallyInspired » Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:44 pm

Yes they did. My point was that if anything happens to Valve Steam isn't just going to disappear. It'll go on no matter who takes ownership (and someone will take ownership).
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Re: The Witcher - Enhanced Edition Platinum

Post by DeadPoolX » Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:34 am

Collector wrote:GOG has no DRM out side of the occasional manual check that is integrated into the game play. They will crack and or hack games with DRM before they sell them.
To me, any form of copy protection is DRM. I actually prefer modern methods to the old "find-crap-in-the-manual" routine. It was far too easy to lose the manual or extra items (like that red magnifying glass for CB) which would make the game unplayable.
Collector wrote:Perhaps Steam is better than draconian DRMs like StarForce, but I don't like buying games that I won't be able to install/play when the company folds. Think that Valve can't go under? Many would have said the same thing about Sierra at one time.
Valve has said numerous times that, if in the unlikely event the company does go out of business, they will allow users to play the games without the Steam client. As is, it's easy to play single-player games in offline mode, so it'd be easy for Valve to change the setup.

Multiplayer games in the past have been released free of charge (the Tribes series, for instance), which would probably occur if Steam was no longer a possibility. This is particularly true of Valve's titles, like TF2.

Sierra didn't have anything remotely like Steam where games aren't limited to Valve's own titles. Steam is the most successful and widely used digital gaming client in the world. While that doesn't guarantee that Valve will never go out of business, the success (and money) Steam brings in would easily attract other companies.

Sales of games go up when on Steam as games reach a wider audience. Even games that're on store shelves benefit from being available on Steam. Plus, Valve often offers "incentives" to buy certain games by awarding prizes, usually in the form of a TF2 hat or weapon. Believe it or not, people WILL buy a game just for a hat or weapon. TellTale games tends to work with Steam in this manner. You'll see a number of people running around with "Max hats" and other gear.

You might say, "That's stupid if someone buys a game for an item." Maybe it is, but the developer benefits. That means the developer can create more (and potentially better) games in the future.

Everything I wrote in the last two paragraphs is why I'd like to see Gray Matter on Steam, in addition to physical stores. More people will notice the game. If Jane were really smart, she'd follow TellTale's lead and make a deal with Steam to offer purchasers items.

I also agree with MI in that Steam grants greater support and security than games bought off store shelves. That doesn't mean I dislike physical copies -- I tend to prefer them, if for no other reason than I don't have to perform a hefty download.

Steam isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination. It's definitely had its fair share of issues. However, if given the choice between standard "off-the-shelf" DRM schemes and Steam, I'll choose Steam every single time.

(Yes, I know I sound like a Steam fan boy, but I just see it as the best alternative to most DRM plans made by companies. If companies stopped their stupid DRM tactics, I'd be more inclined to buy off store shelves.)
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Re: The Witcher - Enhanced Edition Platinum

Post by Collector » Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:10 am

As I said, the majority of games on GOG are completely DRM free except the few with a manual check that is embedded in the game play. Only the few games like KQ6 has the manual check left in because there is no reasonable way to dump it. Losing the manual is not an issue as it is a PDF that comes with the game. Like Steam, once you buy a game on GOG you can redownload it again whenever you wish.

They don't have Laura Bow on GOG, but the manual check is not twined into the game and is easy to completely bypass with a small script file. Same with KQ4. KQ5 is the CD version, where Sierra, itself had dumped the copy protection. The AGI games are ones from the collection, so have already been cracked by Sierra. CD games with disc checks or DRM use hacked EXEs that have the DRM removed or redirects them to look to its installed folder for the CD check. So the vast majority of games on GOG are 100% DRM free.

Steam may not be likely to disappear anytime soon, but no company is guaranteed to last forever. If they did go under, circumstances might be such that they wouldn't have the time or opportunity to put out patches, despite original intent.
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Post by MusicallyInspired » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:14 am

Collector wrote:Steam may not be likely to disappear anytime soon, but no company is guaranteed to last forever. If they did go under, circumstances might be such that they wouldn't have the time or opportunity to put out patches, despite original intent.
And like I said before, if Valve goes under another company is going to come along and pick up Steam. It isn't just going to fizzle out with nobody to claim it. It's a money-making powerhouse.
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Re: The Witcher - Enhanced Edition Platinum

Post by DeadPoolX » Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:33 pm

MusicallyInspired wrote:
Collector wrote:Steam may not be likely to disappear anytime soon, but no company is guaranteed to last forever. If they did go under, circumstances might be such that they wouldn't have the time or opportunity to put out patches, despite original intent.
And like I said before, if Valve goes under another company is going to come along and pick up Steam. It isn't just going to fizzle out with nobody to claim it. It's a money-making powerhouse.
MI's right. Whether or not Valve lasts another 20 years or goes out of business next month, the point is that digital distribution is the preferred method by most gaming companies today. It saves them money and gains a wider audience.

That doesn't mean physical copies don't exist. Stores will carry games for a long time to come; however, it's become increasingly common to see off-the-shelf games require online DRM, like Steam or Games For Windows Live. This occurs more often with games under the GFWL banner than Steam.

Oddly enough, I've been able to load up and play a couple of games without Steam, even though I bought and downloaded it from there. Batman: Arkham Asylum and The Tales of Monkey Island series don't seem to need Steam active in order to play. Unfortunately, I can't bypass GFWL.

(BTW, if I seem unnecessarily hard on GFWL it's because I'm still annoyed at it for changing my Hotmail account's password. I didn't ask it to do that, but since I registered for GFWL with that email account, it decided to switch the password to what I use on GFWL. If it weren't for that, I doubt I'd have much against GFWL.)
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